Q#6.  The RFPs state that “Contractors will be required to submit a traditional time and materials budget estimate for labor and non-labor costs….Additionally, contractors are also invited, at their option, to propose alternative compensation structures...Submission of at least one alternative compensation approach/framework, expression of potential interest, while desired, is not required.”  Elsewhere (Section 6, Budget) the RFPs state:  “Please submit estimated costs, to the extent possible, according to the format detailed in the template below.”  My question is:  Are bidders required to submit time and materials budgets for all programs, or can they propose alternative compensation structures, such as unit cost pricing, where alternative pricing models make more sense than ‘time and materials’ pricing models.  For example, could we propose a set charge for picking up and recycling refrigerators rather than bidding labor rates for drivers, refrigerator movers/handlers, and laborers doing actual recycling work?  (Doing so would give AIU predictable costs associated with predictable savings.  Bidding this program on a time and materials basis would decouple program costs from program savings, unnecessarily, and would probably significantly increase contractor administrative costs…which would get passed on to AIU.)  The RFPs are somewhat unclear on the issue of whether respondents must provide time and materials budgets for all programs, with an option to also provide alternative budgets if they wish, or if they can provide an alternative budget in lieu of a time and materials budget if they feel the alternative budget(s) are much more appropriate for a particular program or programs.

Ameren requires that contractors submit time and materials (T&M) budgets for all programs except Residential Appliance Recycling which can be bid either on T&M or unit cost pricing.  Ameren understands that many of the requested programs, or program components, could potentially be implemented with a pricing structure that is either based on time and materials (T&M) or unit cost pricing, or some combination of the two.  In the interest of encouraging the most cost competitive and appropriate responses, while allowing the greatest opportunity for a one to one budget comparison, Ameren will allow contractors to submit in addition to T&M budgets, unit cost pricing budgets, or a hybrid combination of the two for the same program. This applies to all programs for both AmerenUE and AIU. For example, a contractor may elect to prepare a hybrid budget which details administrative and senior management time on a T&M basis, and other labor and material costs for installations of measures or rebate processing on a unit cost pricing basis.  Ultimately, in order for Ameren to adequately compare one contractors bid price to the other, program budgets must conclude with a summary of overall costs and overall savings per year, with a summary of cost per kWh and kW saved.  Contractors should be aware that Ameren may, after proposals are received, request contractors to re-budget certain programs, or program components, in a format specifically requested by Ameren, in the event budget response formats from contractors are significantly divergent, and it is not possible to make a fair comparison.  In the T&M budgets, under the “Other Direct Costs” section, contractors may detail some limited unit based pricing elements (e.g. rebate processing expenses). For whatever budget format(s) the contractor elects to use, please discuss the merits of the format. Contractors who submit an alternate budget format, should justify reason for doing so, and indicate their preference. If contractors have further questions or seek additional clarification, please ask.

Q#7. Can respondents propose a lighting program design that would give the Ameren utilities a more sustained presence in the market?

Yes. Contractors are encouraged to propose program designs that they think will best achieve the objectives of the program, even if they differ from the preliminary program designs detailed in the RFP or DSM plan. Ultimately, Ameren seeks program design proposals from contractors which will first and foremost achieve savings goals within budget and help lay the groundwork for market transformation. Contractors should consider the program designs as detailed in the RFP and DSM plans as preliminary, subject to modification based on approach to be suggested by the winning contractor team and approved by Ameren during early implementation planning.

Q#8. (Concerning the Residential Lighting and Appliance Program) Is there a difference in the way AIU and AmerenUE will interact with the regional Change a Light campaign?

AIU and AmerenUE, while both affiliated with the parent company, Ameren Corporation, are unique and distinct companies, which will have their own utility specific DSM management staff overseeing program implementation.  AIU management is based in Peoria, IL, while AmerenUE management is based in St. Louis, MO.  While the two companies communicate regularly and will strive for coordination when appropriate, it is possible that the final program designs, by utility, will vary.  For the time being, we anticipate that the AIU and AmerenUE approach toward the Change a Light campaign will be the same. However, Ameren requests that the contractors consider the program design descriptions detailed in the RFPs and the DSM plans as preliminary, and subject to revision based on the final approved program design and implementation plans to be prepared by the selected contractor team.

Q#9. Given that in the past, the regional Change a Light program has sent out RFPs to the lighting industry to select manufacturer/retailer partnership as well as a separate RFP for a regional implementation contractor, could you please clarify how Ameren envisions their continued participation in a regional CAL program? For example, does Ameren intend for both AIU and AmerenUE to collaborate with the Midwest regional CAL campaign with the selected contractor assuming the field implementation responsibilities of the CAL program for a regionally selected manufacturer/retailer promotion?  Given that Ameren is hiring a field staff under the current RFP, it would seem to make sense that this staff would be responsible for CAL, but it is unclear in the RFP.

At this time, it is the intention of AIU and AmerenUE to participate, in some manner or form, with the regional CAL effort. This could be active participation, or perhaps, simply coordinated.  As stated in the question, we envision the participation to be different given the new AIU and AmerenUE lighting programs.  As such, at this time, we seek opinions from the contractors on what they think is the most appropriate design and implementation strategy and/or partnership approach, related both to the CAL campaign season and for the remainder of the year.

Q#10: Can we be provided with a zip code list electronically for Ameren Service Territory in both Illinois and Missouri?

Yes. This information is now posted under the "RFP Download" section of this website. If you have a problem accessing this file, please email tgalvin@summitblue.com

Q#11: We would like to request a 2 week extension to the proposal due date.  All other dates could remain. 

Ameren has decided to extend the due date for RFP responses for AmerenUE and AIU. Responses for the “Residential Energy Solutions” bundles for AmerenUE and AIU are now due on Friday, March 28, 2008, at 3pm Central Time. Responses for the “Business Energy Solutions” bundles for AmerenUE and AIU are now due on Friday, April 4, 2008 at 3pm Central Time.  Additionally, Ameren will also extend the contractor question period until Thursday, March 20, 2008. All other dates and expectations for program start-up remain the same.

Q#12 Can Ameren provide an Excel spreadsheet version of an equivalent AmerenUE Technical Appendix?

Yes. This document available upon request. Please email  tgalvin@summitblue.com .

Q#13. While the DSM filing presents much information on the individual programs, an important piece of information appears to be lacking: projections for the number of homes, multi-family buildings, and multi-family apartment units projected to be served in each program. We assume that the individual measure projections in each program are related to estimates for the number of housing units served. Please provide this information for each residential program for each of the three program years. This information is particularly important for the Home Energy Performance, Residential HVAC Diagnostic and Tuneup, Residential Multi-family, and Residential Low Income programs.

The number of housing units served by measure within each program for each of the three program years is shown in the AmerenUE Portfolio section (#4), which contains the program templates, of the AmerenUE 2/5/08 DSM Plan. In most cases, it is not feasible to show the number of housing units served by program, since each program contains multiple measures, and one housing unit could install multiple measures contained in a program. Additional information is also shown in the Installations section (pages 3.13 to 3.36) of AmerenUE Tech Appendix.

Q#14: I did not see any references in either the Ameren-IL or Ameren-MO RFPs as to whether renewable energy-related options were fair game, are renewable options included? And are CHP options to be considered?

Renewable energy options are not part of the 2008-2010 program plan.  Regarding combined heat and power, while this is not a specific area that was addressed in the DSM plan, it is plausible that an appropriate custom project may be proposed that achieves all program objectives. If such a project was proposed, it would be evaluated for possible incentives under the Commercial Custom program.  However, at this time, AmerenUE and AIU will not actively pursue the CHP program area.

Q#15: For the Residential Multi-Family program, will electricity measures such as electric DHW fuel switching and electric submetering of master metered buildings be considered?

Electric fuel switching is currently not eligible. Electric submetering, is potentially eligible and should be justified by the contractor if proposed as a potential measure.

Q#16: For the Residential Multi-Family program, will whole building measures like air sealing and duct sealing be considered?
 Yes.

Q#17 For the Residential Multi-Family program, will all customers be considered, both small multifamily 5-20, and larger multifamily, 20-100+, despite their ownership (e.g privately owned, Federal or State subsidized housing, or State housing authorities).

For AmerenUE, all customers are eligible to participate in the program, regardless of ownership.  For AIU, State or Federally subsidized multi-family housing developments are eligible to participate, as long as the owner of record of the property is not a Federal or Municipal entity.

Q#18: We understand that ICF International cannot be a prime on bids for AIU and AmerenUE, however, could they join a team responding as a subcontractor?

Due to conflict of interest concerns, ICF International, which prepared the DSM program designs, are precluded from responding to this RFP response, as either a prime contractor or subcontractor.

Q#19.There appears to be a discrepancy in the Feb. 5, 2008 DSM Implementation Plan and the RFP for both the Home Energy Performance program and the HVAC Diagnostic and Tuneup program. Considering the Home Energy Performance program: If one multiplies the measure installation production numbers on page 41 of the DSM Plan by the Incentive per Unit values on page 40, the total measure incentives for 2008 is $910,544. However, on page 42, total incentives for 2008 are shown as $476,149. With admin costs assumed to be $285,689, the total program budget for 2008 is $761,838. This is shown on pages 6 and 13 of the RFP as $0.8M. What explains the discrepancy in the incentive totals?

 The per unit incentive shown in the  DSM plan for Home Energy Performance is an average for all space types and baselines for a specific measure. For example, the R-30 ceiling
insulation measure is made up of six separate measures (three HVAC types X two ceiling  insulation baselines). We chose to show the average incentive for illustrative purposes based on  our modeling outputs, since the actual incentives would be determined at the implementation
stage.

Q#20: Is there an Ameren UE marketing team responsible for the branding and general awareness marketing? How do you anticipate the contractor’s team interacting with the Ameren UE marketing team? Can we assume that Ameren UE’s marketing budget will cover all the branding and general awareness marketing and the contractor budget will cover any program specific marketing?

 AmerenUE’s in-house marketing department provides high-level utility wide marketing, branding, and media relations support.  We anticipate the in-house marketing group will be involved in a high level way with the DSM marketing group, primarily to ensure consistent brand look and feel and to ensure coordination with major media events. The DSM contractor will be the primary entity responsible for all components related to marketing the DSM programs.
Contractors should plan on achieving all of their marketing goals within the budgets specified in the RFP. Contractors should not assume that AmerenUE’s general marketing budget will cover all branding and general awareness expenses as deemed needed by the contractor. As such, contractors should plan their budgets and marketing strategy accordingly.

Q#21 Do you anticipate a capacity shortfall in any of the next five (5) years?  What is the basis for these shortfalls (i.e. what are the primary reasons for there being a short-fall)? For example, is demand increasing, availability of generation decreasing, or both?

We do not expect a capacity shortfall within the next 5 years at AmerenUE.  Since Illinois is a restructured state, we do not have information on the capacity positions of suppliers to the bundled load of the Ameren Illinois Utilities for the next five years.

Q#22. In regards to cost(s):
a. Can you please advise what the potential avoided costs of new generation in your territory? In other words, if you cannot obtain sufficient demand response MWs and you would perhaps have to meet a projected shortfall via additional generation, what would the cost of that new generation be?

Avoided costs are proprietary to AmerenUE and AIU and will not be shared.

b. What are the avoided costs related to generation and transmission infrastructure expenditures?

Avoided costs are proprietary to AmerenUE and AIU and will not be shared.

c. What are the avoided operating costs associated with the above?

Avoided operating costs are proprietary to AmerenUE and AIU and will not be shared.

Q#23. Do you currently have demand response programs, for both C&I and Residential?

If Yes,
a. Historically how often has the program been activated and for what reasons?

We have a commercial and industrial voluntary curtailment program in Missouri that is activated based on market price signals.  There have been less than five called curtailments in the past five years.  We do not have any active Demand Response programs in Illinois.

b. Would any customer be precluded from participating in the proposed program if enrolled in any other program(s)?

Customers may only enroll in one DR program at a time.  There is nothing that precludes a customer from participating in 1 or more of the energy efficiency programs as well as 1 demand response program.

c. What are the penalties for underperformance, if any?

The DR programs defined in AmerenUE and AIU Plans offer guidance on program concepts and design but were meant to offer design flexibility to bidders.  AmerenUE and AIU encourage bidders to offer incentives and penalties based on their past experience that encourage customer signup and adoption of programs while maximizing participation in called events (i.e. preventing manual override of programs/technologies).  High-level guidelines for all programs are offered in the detailed implementation plans.

d. What is the trigger for an event under the current program guidelines, reliability or economic based?

Either reliability or economics may trigger an event.

e. What are the payments available to customers under the program and is there an energy payment component involved?

Total budgets are defined in the DSM plans and RFPs.  AmerenUE and AIU encourage bidders to offer programs that both maximize customer adoption and maximize participation in curtailment events.

Q#24. Under this proposal for Business Solutions demand response programs, do you have a required or preferred trigger component in place, in other words the trigger for an event, i.e. economic or reliability?

Either reliability or economics may trigger an event. .

Q#25. What types of systems are currently in place to measure and analyze load profiles?
a. What type of metering is currently in place for your customers? In which circumstances, if any, do you have interval metering place?

Both AmerenUE and the Ameren Illinois Utilities expect to have interval metering in place for all customers enrolled in demand response programs.

b. Do you have plans now or into the future to change the existing systems?

 No.

c. Will the winning bidder have access to interval data that may be available?

 Yes, to the extent that interval meter data is available, bidders will have access to it.

Q#26:  Although Illinois has a maximum threshold of 400kW for enrollment in the demand response program, does Missouri have similar limitations?

Illinois does not have a threshold for residential demand response programs.  The threshold for commercial and industrial programs is based on those customer classes that have not been declared “competitive”.  At the present time, the maximum threshold for the non-competitive C&I classes is 400kW meaning that any C&I customer below 400kW can be enrolled in an AIU Demand Response program. Missouri does not have similar limitations.  All customers are eligible for enrollment in Missouri Demand Response programs.

Q#27:    Regarding AmerenUE’s Residential Demand Response programs, will the DR calculation of delivered kw include credit for line losses and reserve margin, as is done in some other parts of the country?

The calculation of delivered kw is on the basis of customer load.  It does not include credit for line losses and reserve margin nor a debit for capacity equivalence.

Q#28.   Regarding AmerenUE’s Residential Demand Response programs:
What is the current installed base of residential DR customers? Does AmerenUE envision the new DR provider incorporating these customers into its program or leaving this program to operate in parallel? If the customers are to be incorporated into the DR provider’s program, do the goals include those customers or are they incremental to existing customers?   What technology is being utilized to serve the current residential DR customers (if applicable, i.e. if these customers are to migrate over to the new DR provider)? What is the current agreement between AmerenUE and DR customers in terms of interruptions and incentives (if applicable)?

AmerenUE currently does not offer any residential DR programs.

Q#29: Will the selected DR program implementer be able to market to current residential DR customers, or simply inform these customers that they’re still enrolled in the program?

The DR program implementer will be able to market to all residential customers.

Q#30: For the Residential Multi-Family program RFP and DSM Implementation Plan suggest that only HVAC measures will be done in apartment units.  Is it correct to assume, therefore, that the integral CFL screw in numbers in the measures table in the RFP are only for common areas?

Yes.

Q#31: The Residential low income program as described in the Ameren UE Energy Efficiency and Demand Response plan under Incentive Strategy indicates a sliding scale of rebate levels tied to the % of Poverty level. It also contains a table Incentive amounts per targeted measures which leads us to ask the following questions:

Q#31a) Is the poverty level, as expressed as a percentage of the federal poverty guideline, including adjustments for household size?  (As opposed to State median Income)

The income eligibility guidelines will be based on the most recently published U.S. Department of Energy Weatherization Assistance Program poverty income guidelines for Missouri, and is scaled based on household size.

Q#31b) As income levels increase, the rebate percentage decreases, it appears that a delta has been created between the cost of installed measures versus the rebate amount available.  Is the participant household expected to pay the difference?

Under the preliminary program design plan, the rebate amount deceases as household income level increases. The preliminary program design expected the participant to pay the difference.  Again, contractors should view the program design as preliminary, and are encouraged to propose alternate program designs if they believe necessary and appropriate based on their experience delivering similar programs elsewhere.

Q#31c) Do Incentive per Unit levels expressed in the chart become an annual budget per measure when multiplied by the 1000 homes expected to be served?  For example, does ceiling insulation with and $75 per unit incentive become an absolute budget of $75,000 for that measure per year?

No.  Contractors should consider the overall budget available for the program and propose an approach that they feel will maximize cost-effective and comprehensive savings.
 

Q#31d) Can respondents propose an alternative measure identification protocol which may drive different measures (such as air sealing and duct ceiling) resulting in higher energy savings per household at the plan’s proposed average cost or lower?
 
 Yes.

Q#32:  For the AmerenUE Residential Low Income program under, “Implementation Strategy”, please address the following questions:

Q#32a) What does the Weatherization Kit include? And, is it included in the incentive portion of the budget?

Weatherization kits typically include CFLS, faucet aerators, low-flow showerheads, etc.  To the extent contractors decide to incorporate weatherization kits into your proposal response, we are interested in your thoughts on what measures would be best to include.  Regarding costs, our preliminary design intent was that any costs for kits would come from the incentives portion of the budget.

Q#32b) The plan states that 8 CFLs per household will be installed as a part of the audit.  Is 8 a hard number limit, a minimum, or an average?

Contractors should consider the DSM program design plans as preliminary.  As such, regarding installations of CFLs, contractors should propose an implementation strategy approach, including direct install of CFLs, that they feel is most appropriate to achieve cost-effective savings.

Q#33:  Please provide the electrical system peak in both summer and winter seasons. Also, the composition of the electric load, specifying % of commercial and industrial in these sectors:  <100kW, 101kW-500kW, and >501kW.

This information is now availble in a file entitled "Utility Data 3.19.08" under "RFP Download" tab of this website.

Q#34: The HVAC Diagnostic and Tuneup program has the same discrepancy in incentives following the same logic as described above. Incentives for 2009 calculate at $1,552,263, while they are shown in the filing as $1,282,955. There is also a discrepancy in the calculation of savings in this program, with kWh calculating as about 30% higher than shown in the filing and RFP and kW calculating about 10% higher (applying same net to gross ratio). (Note that this interprets the Total Savings table on page 46 of the DSM Plan as cumulative even though the table includes a Total column that sums the annual cumulative numbers.)

The same modeling approach as detailed in response to Q#19 applies to this question also. The total incentives for 2009 calculate at $1,282,955, as shown in the filing.

Q#35: We would also like to understand the assumption for expected number of houses to be audited and the number to be treated with measures in the Home Energy Performance program. As best we can tell, the budget for this program assumes substantially lower costs per unit than do the Home Energy Performance programs in the Ameren Illinois filings and RFPs. What explains this large disparity given that the measure mixes are similar?

The budget for the Home Energy Performance defined in the AmerenUE RFP and DSM plan is based on modeling assumptions.  Bidders are encouraged to offer measures that meet the program savings requirements within the allocated budget.  If a bidder feels that this is not possible, then AmerenUE encourages the bidder to present their justification as to why these savings levels are not possible and offer an alternative.

FIRMS WHO HAVE INDICATED AN INTEREST IN  A POTENTIAL SUBCONTRACTOR ROLE AND WOULD LIKE THIS TO BE KNOWN TO POTENTIAL PRIME CONTRACTORS:

2/26/08:

Earthways Center

Contact: Glenda Abney

3617 Grandel Square

St. Louis, MO 63108

Tel: 314-577-0288

Email: glenda.abney@mobot.org

www.earthwayscenter.org

Areas of Interest: Energy Star Homes, Home Energy Performance, Commercial New Construction

2/29/08

Energy Plus Associates Inc.

Fred Schreiber

8437 Steelecrest Lane

Troy, Illinois 62294

Phone 618-667-0000

Fax   618-667-0001

www.energyplus.cc

fred_schreiber@charter.net

Areas of Interest: municipal, government, residential programs.

2/29/08

Energy Solutions Inc.

Tim Michels

P.O. Box 300354  7584 Olive Blvd., Suite 208

St. Louis, MO 63130

Tel: (314) 644-2629

www.energysolutions-stl.com

Areas of Interest:AmerenUE/AIU Business Solutions - all topics. Residential Solutions - Home Energy Performance, Residential Multifamily, Residential New HVAC, Energy Star Homes & Residential Low Income.  ESI is an Ameren Value Added Partner Network (VAPN) member and has auditor training and certified BOC training experience.

3/5/08

APOGEE Interactive, Inc
John Laun
jlaun@apogee.net
www.apogee.net
619.840.4804

Area of interest – APOGEE has a full suite of web-based energy analysis tools for residential and business customers. 

3/6/08

Jim Staley
National Resource Management, Inc.
480 Neponset St, Bldg 2
Canton, MA 02021
Phone: 781-828-8877, Ext 117
Toll Free: 1-800-377-5439
Fax: 781-828-8895
email: JStaley@nrminc.com
Please visit our new website at www.nrminc.com

Areas of Interest: Business Energy Solutions (Refrigeration)

3/7/08

Jim Timmersman
Power Supply Industries
314-277-1777 Cell (Preferred)
636-343-5252 Office
jim.timmersman@psiind.com

Areas of Interest: Compressed air audits. Turnkey Compressed Air Management Systems \

3/7/08

Conrad Metcalfe
VP Business Development
Performance Systems Development, Inc.
124 Brindley Street, Suite 4
Ithaca, NY 14850
cmetcalfe@psdconsulting.com
Phone: 607-277-6240 x202
Fax: 607-277-6224
www.psdconsulting.com
www.treatsoftware.com
www.pscontracting.com
Interests: Software (TREAT and TREATtracker for residential, Benchmarking Tools for commercial), Training, Inspection Protocols, Dynamic Web Site Application Development, Online Collaborative File and Data Sharing

3/12/08

Jamie Decker
Director of New Markets
Energy Curtailment Specialists, Inc.
4455 Genesee St.
Building 6
Buffalo, NY 14225

P: 877-711-5453 ext. 241
F: 716-565-0506
jdecker@ecsny.com
www.ecsdemandresponse.com

Areas of Interest: Pertaining to the C&I Industry
Demand Response Program design and implementation (all levels of participation), Demand Response Audits, Metering and Measurement Technologies, Lighting design, implementation and audits as well as Energy Consultations.

3/14/08

Damien Flaherty
Energy Audits
The Science of Energy Efficiency
1794 Timber Ridge Estates Drive,
Wildwood, MO 63011
wwww.energyaudits.com
636-821-1425
314-369-5755 cell

Areas of Interest: ENERGY STAR homes, RESNET HERS Raters, Home Energy Performance.

3/18/08 

Bill Preisendanz
Sr. Director of Business Development
Enalasys Corporation
(404) 312-0242
wpreis@mindspring.com
Areas of Interest:  Residential and Business HVAC

3/18/08

Kevin Grabner, P.E.
Principal Project Manager
608.238.8276 x 154
kgrabner@ecw.org
Energy Center of Wisconsin
455 Science Drive, Suite 200
Madison, WI 53711
http://www.ecw.org

Areas of Interest: Education and Training (Residential and Business), Commercial New Construction program design and energy modeling, Market Research (Residential and Business), Business Program Design

3/26/08

Bradley Brown, CEM
Electrical Engineer
1045 Stone Hill Hwy
Hermann, MO 65041
(314) 623-6577
bbrown56@centurytel.net

Areas of Interest: Commercial and Industrial energy audits and analysis, Rate and tariff analysis, Energy management systems, Demand and Supply Side Management, and energy efficiency programs.

If you would like to have your information posted on this location as a potential subcontractor, please email tgalvin@summitblue.com with full contact information and a list of programs you are interested in potentially serving as a subcontractor.

3/12/08 BIDDERS CALL FIRMS and NOTES

The following firms participated in the 3/7/08 AmerenUE Bidders call.  Notes from the call and participant information are now posted under "RFP Download" .

Lockheed Martin:  Patrick McCarty, Bill Stigellman, Mark Bowen, Paul Herman
KEMA: Charlie Budd
Conservation Services Group:  Mark Dyen, Bob Kind, Mary Stewart, Gavin Williams
Carrier: Keith Peratt, Beth Sakonchick
Comverge: Dave Hyland
Frontier Associates: Kyle Heming
ICF: Mike Mernick, Mark Millin, David Meissenger
Energy Center Wisconsin: Kevin Grabner, Lee Debaily
SAIC : Liz Donati, Tom Londos
Nexant: Chris Schroeder
Earthsense: Amy Hebard
Franklin Energy: Dan Tarrence,
Energy Curtailment  Specialist: Jamie Decker,  Elizabeth Hauer
Earthways Center:  Glenda Abney, St. Louis
Missouri PSC: Ryan Kind
Energy Solutions: Jim Michaels,  Brody Wilson, St. Louis
Energy Federation Inc.: Brad Steele
Energy Audit: Damion Flaherty, St. Louis
Quest: Eileen Parker
Energy Plus: Floyd Schreiber, Brad Schiber, DeTroy, Illinois
EAM Associates: Rick Marx
Energy Alliance Association: Ken Moore
Ecos  Consulting: Dave Backen